nah, that stuff doesn't conflict at all with the life and teachings of Yeshua. i was thinking more about the notion that women should sit down and shut up. you know, like in 1 corinthians 14:34, in which paul writes, "the women should keep silent in the churches. for they are not permitted to speak, but they should be subordinate... it is shameful for a woman to speak in church." or in the pseudo-pauline letter of timothy, where paul goes on, "let a woman learn in silence with all submissiveness. i permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent." and let us not forget ephesians and collosians, whence comes the bane of so many marriages, that women "be subject in everything to their husbands." yeah, so i was thinking more like *those* ramblings.

which wouldn't even necessarily be problematic if people read for themselves, and understood that not every word written in the bible is a quote from Jesus! we hear people who call themselves christian using these verses to justify their own domination and false sense of superiority--and, in the case of women, to justify their own second-class status politically, socially, economically, and domestically, bowing to the whim of their man without ever having an independent thought. they are not true christians; they are not followers of Christ, they are followers of paul, and are likely not even aware that there is a difference.

this is especially sad given that the life of Yeshua straight-forwardly demonstrates a completely opposite view on the pariticipation of women. for example, when peter complains that mary is dominating a conversation with Yeshua, Yeshua quickly rebukes him. and when mary admits to Yeshua that she dares not speak to him freely because peter gets on her case, Yeshua replies that whoever the Spirit inspires is divinely ordained to speak, whether man or woman. those examples are not as widely known, because they are in non-canonical gospels (specifically, the gospel of mary), but there are places in the bible proper where Yeshua's opinion on women is evident--and opposite of paul's. like, we all know that Yeshua defied jewish convention by speaking openly with women. and in luke, when martha complains to Yeshua that her sister, who is sitting and listening to him, has thereby left her with the housework, instead of suggesting the sister return to her womanly duties, Yeshua tells martha that pursuing Truth is more important than anxiety over worldly pursuits--even for women!

i mean those.
just to be clear...

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